Wednesday, June 17, 2009

MkITN VIII, Verses 27 - 32.a

27. Then Jesus went on with His disciples to the villages of Caesarea Philippi, and on the way He said to them, "I want to ask you something...who do people say that I am?"

28. And without even having to think about how to answer Him they said, "Well, generally, people say that You're the reincarnation of John, the Baptizer...but others think and say that You're Elijah, appearing in the now...and still others just believe and declare that You're 'one of the seers.'"

29. Then He responded to them, "All right...so who do you yourselves say that I am? And, without missing a beat, Peter spontaneously replied to Him, "You are the Christ...the Anointed One!"

30. But He warned them to keep this revelation quiet...not to even breathe a word of it.

31. Then He went right into teaching and explaining to them that it was necessary for the Son of Man to experience an ordeal of suffering, to be tested and rejected by the elders, priests and other religious leaders...and to be ultimately put to death. He also revealed that after three days He would rise again.

32a. And He took His time in spelling all this out for them, speaking very plainly and explicitly, making sure that they fully grasped what He was actually saying...

12 comments:

Avatar said...

So did Mark who had ears to hear so clearly take a nature break during the "you are the rock" discussion?
I'm enjoying the depth that's shown by comparing the synoptics in BITN...waiting for L√ľke like I wait for Christmas morning...enjoying the anticipation...with no peaking!

Izumi/JOY said...

32. And He took His time spelling all this out for them...

This line realllllly takes me out there. He had the Spirit without measure. So, what's time mean to Jesus?

Did He expand the day? Or their ability to perceive fully?

Iris said...

Who do I say that He is… Let me tell you this… I can not just keep it to myself… I will shout it from the roof tops…

He is Johovah – The God who reveals Himself

He is Jehovah M’Kaddesh – The Lord who sanctifies

He is Jehovah Rophe – The Lord who heals

He is Jehovah Nissi – The Lord our victory

He is Jehovah Shalom – The Lord our peace

He is Jehovah Jireh – The Lord our provider

He is Jehovah Tsidkenu – The Lord our rightiousness

He is Jehova Rohi – The Lord our shepherd

He is Jehovah Shammah – The Lord is present

He is Advocate – Lamb of God – The Resurrection and the Life – Shepherd and Bishop of Souls – Judge – Man of Sorrows – Head of the Church – Master - Faithful and True Witness – Rock and High Priest – The Door – Living water – Bread of life – Rose of Sharon – Alpha and Omega – True Vine – Messiah – Teacher – Holy One – Mediator – The Beloved - Branch – Carpenter – Good Shepherd - Light of the World - Image of the Invisible God – The Word - Chief Cornerstone - Savior - Servant - Author and Finisher of our Faith - the Almighty - Everlasting Father - Shiloh - Lion of the Tribe of Judah - I Am - King of Kings - Prince of Peace - Bridegroom - Only Begotten Son - Wonderful Counselor – Immanuel - Son of Man - Dayspring - The Amen - King of the Jews – Prophet - Redeemer – Anchor - Bright Morning Star - the Way the Truth and the Life

Jesus Christ is the air I breathe… Without Him I would not be…

You are the I AM, My God and my King… without You I could not live… and to worship You I live, I live to worship You…

Iris

Ebony said...

Hey Bishop,
I gotta say, I am loving all the GITN (Gospels in the Now) and can't wait to read them all. Plus, they have been a welcome ditraction. I am visting a friend of mine whose father passed away earlier this week, and talking to him makes me so grateful to be a part of this house and to have you as my pastor. As he and I were talking he asked me where I thought his father was, because while his dad was a spiritual man, he wasn't religious my our definitions, and-as far as Chris knew- was never "born again" (I.E. never said a sinner's prayer). And I thought to myself that how before I had started going to church here, I would have told him, "Well Chris, if you don't know if he was "saved" or not then he's probably not in Heaven right now", and said it with complete and utter convition. Now, not only do I realize how insensitive that would've been to say (and heartbreaking to hear). I know that we all have different roads that we take, but the destination is the same. He told me how much of a nature lover he was, and I can't help but think it was because oft he fact that in Nature he found an understanding of God. So while I couldn't articulate it as well as you could Bishop, I told him that his dad's partial knowledge of God was made full when he went to the other side. And it made him feel better. And it's like you said, it is wonderful to be a part of the "especially them that believe" crowd (membership ALWAYS has privedges), but I am glad to serve the "savior of ALL men"

karl said...

...passing through saying "hello".
God bless you Bishop and all here, and Pastor Debye's word for tonight. - karl

Bishop Jim Swilley said...

Thanks, Avatar...I never really realized how completely different the four gospels were/are until doing the paraphrasing...these men had totally different paradigms of Jesus, and different versions of every story concerning Him...

Bishop Jim Swilley said...

Love all your feedback, Izumi, including what you posted on the previous entries...

Bishop Jim Swilley said...

Thanks, Iris...got your e-mail...

Bishop Jim Swilley said...

Thanks, Ebony...you'll like what I'm ministering on Sunday...

Bishop Jim Swilley said...

Hey Karl...

Anonymous said...

Just wondering why sometime when I sign on the "Who's on line tracker",records me as in Jasper Ga. It showed Ellijay just a couple of times..Hmmm! Just wondering.
And BTW the depth of your writing Bishop is so engaging. I look forward to each new post to see what it pulls out of me.
Be blessed and know that you are appreciated.

Debra M.

Izumi/JOY said...

Thank you, Bish.

And, now I'm wondering about v.32. Don't remember seeing "a" and "b", the first reading.

You know what I really like about v.33? (if you answer correctly, that'll weird me out)

I can almost imagine their conversation.

Was Jesus saying to His friend, "Amigo - you're way out of alignment. What happened? Did I lose you after the shush or the ellipsis?" (what's the plural of ellipsis? Ellipsisses? Ellipsi?)

There were some after the Lord's and Peter's comments.

On the surface, it seems like an open rebuke.

I never thought about (until just now), how Jesus might have been addressing the soul(mind, will & emotions/adversary/strong man) in Peter, charging, "Dude, get my back."

See?

In v. 29, Jesus asked, "who do you yourselves say"... . (please don't grit your teeth, and groan, Izumi - read it in context)

He probably meant all the disciples.

Just interesting that it was Peter who answered. And how he responded (v.32).

Jesus already described what would happen to Him. His disciples were closely aligned with Him. His life affected them significantly.

If He would suffer an ordeal, wouldn't they? If He would be tested and rejected by the clergy, might they?

Almost sounds like it by v.33.

Was Peter tormented by the sound of the rooster crowing? Did he despise the reminder?

Did he think he was speaking supportive words, unaware they were in opposition to God's plan?